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Thursday, November 3

Okay I got my hands on a Kona Unit 2 9 frame from those biking Quaaars over at MWC (Thanks Nate). I am getting to the point of building wheels and thought i would throw this one out for discussion. So does anyone have any opinions on Hubs, Rims, and Spokecount?
21 Comments:
Blogger debaser said...
Go disc. Don't freak over the wheels, build them like you would a 26'er.

Blogger redstone said...
Same advice here. Keep in mind, though, that I've never really had the chance to kill a set of 29er wheels!

I did build a pretty freakin' light set (240isc hub/dt rim/rev spokes) for a guy about 6 months ago. They're still keepin' it real.

Blogger 3p0 said...
spend some dough on the hubs,
cuz the will last a long time, and you'll always be proud of them, they go with everything in the future, 26, 29, new bike, toased rim, you'll always have them,

I'd say go green, to match the frame, green disk rim, green king hubs.

disk for sure...

or even better,
(but unfortunatly not disk)
get on line and track down some green hand painted dt hugi's

oh baby

Blogger bdiddy said...
yeah i dig your hugi's with the flowers painted on them. I remember drooling over those in the Quality catalog back in the day.

I like king hubs but I think this is going to be more of a xt level build. The wolfman has had good luck with his hugi 340's.

Blogger debaser said...
I'm running Onyx disc hubs with no complaints thusfar. Got 'em cause everyone was out of black xt's.

Don't play the matching game color wise. Play the unmatching game. I say eggplant.

Blogger redstone said...
I went black and haven't gone back.

Blogger insanet said...
I've got xtr disc reverse laced with 32 dt dbl bt, mustang tubeless, wtb 2.5/2.3 and I love them.

Blogger samsam said...
I'll second the reverse lacing. I did it on my XTR's, strong recommendation for Centerlock too, with Mavic CXP33's for some euro-flair. Spokes are DT ALpine III, which are definately overkill but I haven't had to true them, ever.

Blogger Chaybo said...
you could do the reverse (symetrical vs. asymetrically laced wheels is the real arguement) lacing technique that King and Shimano have both been recommending, but from personal experience i think you'll be fine lacing it up using EITHER technique, however, as SAM and INSANETODD pointed out...it does make logical sense to lace disc wheels in a symetrical fashion since the the torque generated by the disc brake far surpasses any torque generated by the rider at the cassette. So, lacing the rear wheel for braking, rather than acceleration, makes damn good sense, BUT then again i'm positive you'll be fine with either technique.


god damn, i'm going around in circles...thanks SAm !



on to the spokes:

DT comps are a no brainer and will hold up for ya.

The Velocity VXC rims would be ideal, but to bad that feller from odds and endos has the rights to them until the new year. You can get'em, but you'regonna be paying FULL RETAIL biatch !


Hubs...the no-flash/wise choice option would be XT's for sure , a decent step up could be those DT 340 hubs like the wolf is sporting. A king or hadley set will last a lifetime of disc riding bliss.


colors...who really gives a fuck. Silver !


later

Blogger htop said...
well, i cant give mutch of a mechanical view, but i've always thought matching hub/frame color looks good. not into neon or bright colors. i'm jealous diddy, a new toy and its not even christmas.

Blogger J.R.A. said...
I have had great luck with my 240's with center lock. But my next wheelset will probally be built up with kings. Just because. As far as rims, I like the Bonti's, just a good solid rim for 29ers. I give another vote for the reverse threading. My color vote goes to Black.

Sh

Blogger samsam said...
Thanks for the thanks Chaybo. I guess I could have clarified better with my wheels, the rear wheel is asymetrical, front is symetrically-reversed(?) if that word exists. Spoke count is 32 on both, but I would do 28 in front in a heartbeat, since I only weigh buck-o-five holding a six pack.

Blogger Chaybo said...
and even another way to explain Sam's lacing pattern:


On the front wheel and the disk-side of the rear wheel, the spokes with inward-facing heads should point forward. On the drive-side of the rear wheel, they should point backwards.

is this how yours looks Sam ? Or am i full of sheet ?

Blogger samsam said...
Your observations are correct, sir.

Blogger mw said...
my new wheels need a bit more tension. they have some miles on them now. they are bonti mustang disk specific rims. all spokes are 1.8 straight. alloy front nips and brass in back. all 32 3x. standard lacing with inside spokes facing forward from the top. i was surprised how good the first pair of 9er wheels i build held up but they were on those mavic touring rims which are sweet but overkill and heavy. we'll see on these but my geary bike has the same lacing and the bonti rim and it's rockin too.

Anonymous greasy knuckles said...
i'd buy some mavic ksyriums and not respace them to 135mm and when they've ruined your frame and bent the rims cause they're 19mm or less, just warranty them and take advantage of my distributors warranty policy and get a new pair, cause dang, they are the lightest "29""er wheel available...
er what?

Blogger mw said...
can you get a disk on there somehow???

Blogger Chaybo said...
i had a good laugh on that one N- , just don't tell me it's a true story. Please - o - please !

Wills....what touring rims you talking about ? A little overkill isn't necassarily a bad thing, and who knows if it's actually even ovrkill....could you tell the difference from the old wheels to the new wheels ?? Quicker exceleration ? interesting stuff.

those bonti rims seem to be popular....Kirk, ya listening ?

Blogger mw said...
the word on the street is the bontis now are very hard to get. i'd get those velocities and give em a whirl too tho.

the new wheel set is lighter then with the mavics, by feel. haven't weighed anything. i should. and i switched the rear hub to a king which is some of the weight i would think. the mavics were T520s. there's a new model number now for the same rim but i can't remember what it is. they were double eyelets. i have them both still. one just a rim and the other is still laced to my paul rear hub as a backup wheel. super nice and round rims and not overkill if you were to consider more rocky terrain more frequently then me.

Blogger debaser said...
I just wanted this thread to hit 20 comments.

Blogger J.R.A. said...
As far as Bonti's go we have some in now. But I do agree that the Velocities are definately worth a shot.

SH